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A few months ago I had similar feedbacks from the straight arm pull stroke (Manaudou style), but that stroke is way less sustainable than this deep spear stroke. So very interesting results so far, that's the best way to start a new season! Happy swimming everyone, Salvo |
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![]() Thanks for the analysis Salvo. Something to try this week,
How do you get your arms to rotate at 80 to 92 spm!!! I have tried approaching 60spm using the TT (1.0) and it does not feel good at all. Any faster, and whatever TI style I have left will go right out the window!
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![]() Hello Sclim,
thank you very much! You pointed out in much better terms exactly what I'd tried to say. Best regards, Werner |
#44
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80 to 92SPM is for sprinting (say up to 100m), at cruising pace I usually swim below 70SPM. Anyway I can assure you that at 92SPM there's still time to stretch forward and deep (can see the arms with peripheral view), catch and pull all the way back till the hand reaches the thighs (ie no shortcuts). Of course I also need to pull strongly to execute the full stroke at these rates. To have fun with TT, I could still follow the beep at higher rates (above 100SPM) but then, given my current level of strength (which is improvable), I'd need to progressively cut the stroke at the front and/or at the rear and in the end I wouldn't be faster than I am at 92SPM. Note that these rates are not considered high outside TI world. Fast swimmers still look not rushed at all at 80+ (think of K.Ledecky on the 1500 for instance). 60SPM should be quite comfortable for most swimmers. If you feel rushed at 60SPM you may try practicing some short fast swimming to strip your stroke from unnecessary movements and gain the benefits of rhythm. Believe it or not, 6 years ago I felt rushed at 40SPM!!! Salvo |
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I think it's very important as experienced swimmers to use language that is direct and accurate, not overly complex. It may sound cool, but for the most part misunderstood or misinterpreted - confusing. Perpendicular and radial, one's linear while the other is circular. Also a "perpendicular to axis" cue may sound precise but is subjective given a swimmer's perception in that environment. Using feeling of pressure on the high and low side of spearing arm is direct and in context, i.e. do you feel higher pressure on knuckle side of hand or on the palm side. Although pressures are subtle, a swimmer tuning into those areas will begin to gain that awareness. Then of course, frequent video/filming of swimmer above and below surface immediately bring both perception and reality together for both swimmer and coach with few words. Stu |
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![]() Another personal feedback on the deep spear at high rates (> 80SPM) fwiw: when spearing deep, I also find it crucial to never cut the stroke short at the rear. There's quite a lot of DPS to be gained or lost in those last inches between the hips and the thighs. So if you have to save time, do it somewhere else but not there.
Comparing to a shallow spear + high elbow catch, a deeper spear may miss some water purchase at front so it is important not to miss other precious water at the rear. Salvo |
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![]() Thanks Salvo.
I reduced TT from 1.20 in .05 steps down to .95 yesterday, doing 100 yards per step. .95 felt quite exhausting but was able to maintain my composure! For kicks I then set .75 (80 spm) and while I did complete a 100 at this pace my SPL shot up to over 25. As you said in your above post, I felt I was cutting the stroke short at the rear to make sure I was ready for the next beep.
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![]() Clipped my heel on the gutter, split it open, took a long time to heal.
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