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Old 03-01-2009
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Default 4-Stroke Butterfly!

I've been working on slowing down, concentrating on "Boomerfly" styling, endurance and my glide. Two weeks ago I did two miles of Free to warm up, and then a mile of Fly only stopping for water every ten minutes. I was averaging about five to five and a half strokes per 25-yard length of the pool. Today I focused on lengthening my glide, and being more dolphin-like in my between-strokes kick, and I was able to lengthen that out to doing only 4 strokes per length for most of the time I was doing Fly! When I do the long strokes I'm at an average pace of sixty five seconds per 50 yard lap. My normal Free stroke is between fourty five and fifty five. I'm VERY happy with this.

To build up my stamina without over exertion I've been doing two miles Free, and then alternate Free and Fly for the next mile or two. The time I did the full mile at once, I cooled down with some Free afterward. This is amazing! I only learned the basic Fly stroke this past November!

THANK YOU TERRY!
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Old 07-05-2009
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I'm still mixing bly and free, and can sometimes pull of 3 1/2 strokes per length if I focus on extension and relaxation. Twice I've passed a mile in butterfly now, and I'm looking for number 3!
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Old 07-29-2009
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Default Your 5-5-1/2 SPLs...on a slow mode...

I assume that - kicking off the wall - you do underwater DKs for up to half of the pool before you make your first hand stroke? Thus, your SPLs would be for the rest of the distance?

Do you count your underwater DKs (before making the first hand stroke)? How many are these?

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N.B. BTW, do you "...scrape the water surface..." with your chin as you breath? Do you do the "...turn on/turn-off..." mind picture that TI suggests? Again, thanks.
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Old 07-31-2009
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Default 4-stroke butterfly

I haven't counted the underwater kicks but I think the distance is about 1/3. I'll count during my next session and let you know I may also count the strokes with no underwater dolphins or significant push and see how well I do just on the stroke alone. Great questions! Thanks.
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Old 08-01-2009
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Default Better counting

Thanks for the question. I needed to do that. Today I decided to isolate more of what the stroke is doing and see the result.

I pushed off from the wall normally (not hard or soft, just a normal average push).

I glided only (no dolphin kicks off the wall at all), checked my distance at breaking the surface, (just under 1/3 of the pool length of 25 yards, so call it about an 8-yard glide).

I take a breath during each arm stroke, and one dolphin between arm strokes.

I get to the wall in 4 arm strokes but don't need the last dolphin.

My time used to be 1:06 for a gentle lap (50 yds) in that style. Today it was 0:57 average over 20 non-continuous laps with a sideways easy turn instead of a flip. I'm not good with flips.

Yay!
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Old 08-02-2009
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I applaud your purposeful focus and goal orientation in practicing Fly. If you tell us what your intermediate-term goal in Fly is we can perhaps suggest what to do next.
In the next 100 Days, what would you like to be able to do while swimming butterfly
- Swim farther?
- Take fewer strokes?
- Hold a faster pace?
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