Total Immersion Forums  

Go Back   Total Immersion Forums > Freestyle
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #361  
Old 01-17-2011
flppr flppr is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 449
flppr
Default

I drilled for 35 minutes today and then did the following tempo trainer practice. L=50m:
1.50: 33
1.60: 32
1.70: 31
1.80: 30
1.90: 29
2.00: 28
1.90: 29
1.80: 31
1.70: 30
1.60: 31

By the time I got to 2.00, it felt excruciatingly slow, like 3.00. This routine seems to be tuning my body for faster speed, which will be useful in September.
Reply With Quote
  #362  
Old 01-22-2011
flppr flppr is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 449
flppr
Default

Decided to speed things up today. L=25y.
1.20: 14,15
1.30: 13,14
1.40: 13,13
1.50: 12,13
1.60: 11,12
1.70: 11,11
1.60: 12,12
1.50: 12,12
1.40: 12,13
1.30: 13,13
1.20: 14,14
Without fail, when I focus on converting the force from my kick into hip drive, my stroke lengthens.

Last edited by flppr : 01-22-2011 at 11:47 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #363  
Old 01-24-2011
efdoucette efdoucette is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 157
efdoucette
Default

Hello, I've recently decided to learn how to swim, I'm 56. I've discovered this TI website and have learned a lot just by watching the videos, reading the forums and trying to take that info to the pool. This entry talks about the wide leading arm to help with stability and breathing. I tried this this morning and can see the effect although it seems to be counter to streamlining, am I missing something?
Reply With Quote
  #364  
Old 01-24-2011
borate borate is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 533
borate
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by efdoucette View Post
This entry talks about the wide leading arm to help with stability and breathing. I tried this this morning and can see the effect although it seems to be counter to streamlining, am I missing something?
The term "wide tracks" can be ambiguous, but is consistent with streamlining.
During recovery the hand should move in a nearly vertical line between exit and entry - close the the body - and hang loosely just above the surface.

The hand will be nearly in line with the shoulder when it pierces the water...not crossing over the body center line, and not too wide to the side.

Once the hand has entered, the kick/hip drive/rotation helps propel the spearing arm to its fullest extension - a streamlined profile.

Last edited by borate : 01-24-2011 at 06:18 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #365  
Old 01-25-2011
flppr flppr is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 449
flppr
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by efdoucette View Post
Hello, I've recently decided to learn how to swim, I'm 56. I've discovered this TI website and have learned a lot just by watching the videos, reading the forums and trying to take that info to the pool. This entry talks about the wide leading arm to help with stability and breathing. I tried this this morning and can see the effect although it seems to be counter to streamlining, am I missing something?
As Borate said, the lead arm should not be positioned too wide, just wide enough to feel a slight stretch in the chest muscle. Too wide will affect your streamlining. A better solution to your instability, though, is to work on balancing your vessel in the water. Now that my balance has improved, I don't need to rely on my arms or legs for stability. It comes from the core, and it is a learned skill. Are you doing core balance drills?
Reply With Quote
  #366  
Old 01-25-2011
efdoucette efdoucette is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 157
efdoucette
Default

Thank you Borate and flppr for your advice. At the start of my sessions ( 3 per week) I do superman glides which seems to give me balance and positioning. I then go to stroke for 25M, assess then 25M again. My initial struggle was, well everything, but breathing was the most frustrating. Over the last few weeks I've slowed down to relax, exhaling in the water and breathing when I needed to. Also, less kick and trying to work on form. So much to understand but having a great time, when I'm not in the water I wish I was.
Reply With Quote
  #367  
Old 01-28-2011
flppr flppr is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 449
flppr
Default

L=25y:
1.00: 17
1.10: 16
1.20: 15
1.30: 14
1.40: 13
1.50: 12
1.40: 13
1.30: 14
1.20: 15
1.10: 15
1.00: 16,16

I followed this with a 200yd swim at 1.20 pace but felt rushed and fatigued at the end, and my spl range was 15-19. I then slowed the pace to 1.30 for another 200yd swim and was able to maintain form, ease, and an spl of 15-18.

What stroke rate/tempo trainer setting do I need to maintain to swim a mile in 30 minutes? Can someone show me the math on that?
Reply With Quote
  #368  
Old 01-28-2011
DD_l_enclume DD_l_enclume is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 121
DD_l_enclume
Default

Assuming 25y length
Assuming 4 beeps for turn/push off

1mile =70 length (25y)
70 length ->30min=1800sec
1800/70=25sec/length

14SPL->25/(14+4)=1.38
15SPL->25/(15+4)=1.31
16SPL->25/(16+4)=1.25
17SPL->25/(17+4)=1.19
18SPL->25/(18+4)=1.13
19SPL->25/(19+4)=1.08
20SPL->25/(20+4)=1.04
Reply With Quote
  #369  
Old 01-29-2011
flppr flppr is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 449
flppr
Default

Thank you, DD. What stroke rate would one have to maintain in order to swim a mile in 30 minutes in open water?
Reply With Quote
  #370  
Old 01-30-2011
flppr flppr is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 449
flppr
Default

I didn't gain any speed coming down the pyramid today, and I don't know why. My stroke flowed well today, though. I think I've made some major progress with my recovery and with catch and pull. L=50m:

1.00: 43
1.10: 41
1.20: 39
1.30: 37
1.40: 35
1.50: 34
1.40: 35
1.30: 37
1.20: 39
1.10: 41
1.00: 43
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.