question about a safe butterfly recovery

[Danny]

Originally Posted by CoachSuzanne

Interesting, I'll have to take more note of the up-kick and how it relates specifically to recovery.

But when taking those clinics from Teryr like I mentioned, he let the legs hang low on purpose which actually can place them in a good position to gently kick the body into streamline as the recovery arms go in.

it's par to fthe learning progression to develop the timing, not necessarily how you'd approach full stroke.

if you let hte legs / hips sink, and gently le tthe knees bend, when you recovery thearms (early release, throw them forward) and gently kick the knees straight then the whole body arrives in streamline at once.

I'll play with your upkick...you play with my bent knee kick into streamline...and we'll meet back here to discuss.

Hi Suzanne, I think you bring up another issue with Terry's approach which caused me some trouble. As I recollect, when I looked at Terry's body dolphin, he is doing a lot of bending at the knees and very little bending at the hips. He describes his emphasis on streamlining, which may explain the difference in approach. Over time, I found that the kicking that feels most effective to me is with very little knee bending and most bending at the hips. When you kick this way, you can really feel your abs working on the down-kick. My emphasis when I kick this way is less on streamlining and more on undulation. The undulation does not have to be high amplitude, but the butt is definitely making a corner between the legs and the upper body, which Terry didn't seem to be doing. This may be what he refers to as "boomer fly", I'm not sure. When you are kicking mostly at the hips, I think the up-beat may also become more important, because, if you aren't kicking at the hips, then there is no upbeat.

Don't know if what I said above makes sense to you, but I would be interested in your thoughts. If it does make sense, which type of kicking are you doing?