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Old 08-20-2016
fooboo fooboo is offline
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As I posted previously, succeeded to hold balance almost all the time,
got streamline fine and catch with high elbow. One thing bothers me
always, when I change a tinniest bit of anything. Breathing.
At the moment I lost it almost completely. Seems I will take into
account drills with nod, whale aye etc. Option is that my neck is not
able to move, where it should. Cannot say, but to me it looks like my
head is deep in the water. On the "water pillow", as adviced. I might
follow a shoulder with a chin, but head goes up, I think.
When doing a breathe, I push on the colarbone and stay balanced. It
seems to be deep, deep, deep. Any advice or drill?
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Old 08-20-2016
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Have you tried keeping your head aligned with your spine, like the guy is doing at the 26 sec mark?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmx4nctdyFs

another way to reset your breathing is doing simple one arm swimming with one arm extended, breathing every stroke.
If you this without bobbing and without head lifting you breathing should be ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6PtNd9Z4Hg

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Old 08-21-2016
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Gonna try out this morning.
Guy on the latter video looks low in the water. I tend to have
legs up and without need to kick so freq.
Neck could be my problem, have to admit.
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Old 08-21-2016
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I hate rotating my head far from looking forward (is down in swimming position). I would love to be able to not rotate the head at all and do everything with body rotation but thats impossible without excessive roll.
Often my mouth is simply half under water when I look sideways, and focussing on aquatic posture in the neck and lower baqck area just brings the mouth almost an inch higher at the same rotation angle, which is just enough.
Everything the guy says is spot on.
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Old 09-03-2016
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Zenturtle!
Trying all together in sea water. Balance is helped a lot and head
position went to the correct place easily. I added what Boomer did
some time ago: connected rotation with more powerful recovery. My
initial thought is that it could be the way to go for me.
Breathing was fine in sea water. Have to try it all out on the lake
to confirm if I was tired before holidays.
What I lost? There was no place for classical archor I used before.
Seems I do not need it. How is it possible? Have to settle a bit down
and see if it really works. On the sea surface I was so fast, that
it looked strange to me myself.
Well, head is aligned, as you mentioned.
Best regards all.
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Old 09-03-2016
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Hello fooboo,

just two things from TI's point of view:

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connected rotation with more powerful recovery
Connected rotation is a good thing if connected a "pencil like" body, but you should never put power/force into your recovery arm. Let it be fast and relaxed.

Quote:
There was no place for classical archor I used before
Not sure what your difference is, but you must have an anchor in any way. Otherwise you wan't go Forward. Maybe you found a modern anchor.
Let us know about...

Enjoy your continous, patient, attentive and successful work!

Best regards,
Werner
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Old 09-03-2016
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Hi Werner!
When I said "powerful recovery", there is no power in an arm, but it
starts the same half of the body to move foreward, just like on the
Bill Boomer video, some months ago. His arm is streight, mine is bent.
The same intention.
Been to the lake this very morning. It is harder to stay balanced in
fresh water, obviously. I have to lean on colar bone to do that. Or
the water was a bit cold, or I was not in a mood, it was not so well
and interesting today. Anchor? It was back. On the sea, I imagined I
was a kind of fish and thought nothing about arms and legs. I extended
leading arm, let hand to be parallel for a time, and, when on the side,
hung it down. I felt I holded the water or alike. Recovery with the
same time "through" as Boomer's. I am sure elbow was not high and just
close to the body. Just like hung hand did the trick. Thinner water
made me to keep attention to high elbow and do proper 90 degrees anchor.
It is Cameron style of anchoring, as he showed in his previous video.
At some moment, I do feel I loose streamline, leaving elbow far away.
I might live with elbow stay lower and closer. Cannot say right now.
I will try this all out tomorrow. Or I need to rest of swimming a bit.
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Hello fooboo,

sounds as if you're still on the TI-line!

Go on and enjoy!

Best regards,
Werner
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