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Old 07-13-2014
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In some other thread there was much discussion about the one arm drill. I did a post about how hard this drill is for me, and the suggestion was made that I probably concentrated too much on pull rather than hip drive. Most likely that is true.

Question is are there any drills that help to feel the hip drive? I know that at least 1 TI coach proposes that the 1 arm drill is too hard and that the swimmer is better off doing the underwater spear switch. I do this drill quite often, but maybe I am not doing it correctly? I find that my stroke has too much lateral movement than forward progress-almost to the point of fish-tailing.

For those of you that seem to be able to do the 1 arm drill, how much time did you have to do to make this work?

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In some other thread there was much discussion about the one arm drill. I did a post about how hard this drill is for me, and the suggestion was made that I probably concentrated too much on pull rather than hip drive. Most likely that is true.

Question is are there any drills that help to feel the hip drive? I know that at least 1 TI coach proposes that the 1 arm drill is too hard and that the swimmer is better off doing the underwater spear switch. I do this drill quite often, but maybe I am not doing it correctly? I find that my stroke has too much lateral movement than forward progress-almost to the point of fish-tailing.

For those of you that seem to be able to do the 1 arm drill, how much time did you have to do to make this work?

Sherry
What are you looking to gain from the 1 armed drill?
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Old 07-14-2014
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What I am looking to gain is a sense of hip drive and also better balance. I do practice the underwater spearswitch and try to concentrate on the hip drive, but when doing the 1 arm drill, can't seem to execute that same feel for the drive
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What I am looking to gain is a sense of hip drive and also better balance. I do practice the underwater spearswitch and try to concentrate on the hip drive, but when doing the 1 arm drill, can't seem to execute that same feel for the drive
What about in swing switch or whole stroke swimming? I'd say regarding hip drive the order of difficulty in coordinating it is

spearswitch<swingswitch<swim<1 arm swim

kind of makes sense that the 1 armed is most challenging (to me anyway)
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Old 07-15-2014
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I'm comfortable doing the one-arm drill with a 6-beat flutter kick. I lose too much momentum with a 2-beat kick. I'm not sure if it's advisable to use a 2-beat kick with this drill.

This is a challenging drill. You may want to start with fins as they will help keep the momentum going while you learn the continuous rhythm.

P.S. A mistake that I've noticed with some swimmers: The one-arm drill for freestyle means that the non-stroking arm should be at the side. The non-stroking arm should not be leading as that will prevent the hips from rotating.

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Old 07-16-2014
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Often its advised to have a strong kick or use fins during this drill.
Here is a guy who is doing it with a 2beat kick. This guy is good!
He has a very nice roll going during the drill. How much his straight arm recovery is helping in this roll is a topic of debate.
You have to be pretty advanced to do tho drill well and swim instead of drown.
Charles will love the movement of his non stroking arm when he relaxes it in the advanced version.(2.16min)

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cm...articleid=1333

I am happy to see him also use my preferred minimal disturbing torque catch/pull: wide and deep to narrow and shallow. I will stick to this one and stop experimenting with it.

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