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Old 07-27-2012
swimmom2348 swimmom2348 is offline
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Default Awkward swimmer

Anybody have trouble learning to count and swim at the same time? I'm a beginner who went to the TI class and I start off counting my strokes and then forget because I'm thinking about balance, patient hand, looking down, kick from the hip, etc. This happens even when I use one focal point! (Maybe I'm A.D.D!)

Just wondering if any other newbies struggled with this.

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Old 07-27-2012
tritri tritri is offline
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Hi swimmom, when I started counting my strokes I had a very hard time doing so. After 2 weeks I was doing it nearly inconsciously. I would start my lap and realize that my brain was counting for me after eight or nine strokes!

But when I really focus on something, I am not able to count at the same time. I'm thinking of buying a Garmin swim watch because it counts the number of strokes and stroke rate for you.
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Old 07-27-2012
terry terry is offline
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Swimmom (does that mean mom-of-swimmers or mom-who-swims or both?)

Welcome to the Forum if you're new here.

You're experiencing what everyone does when they begin counting stroke and swimming mindfully -- i.e. guided by Focal Points.

Most non-TI swimmers -- not knowing what to think about -- have either a hibernating or wandering brain while they swim. Upon following the TI Method and realizing that both counting and clear, purposeful, focus are good for your stroke and healthy for your psyche (if you haven't yet, you will probably soon experience Flow states), they also learn that thinking can be hard work. Fortunately the brain adapts quickly.
For now devote some repeats to mindfulness and others to measuring (i.e. counting.) On the mindful laps, you should be paying very close attention to feedback from the water and your body.
Before long you'll be able to do both.
Terry Laughlin
Head Coach & Chief Executive Optimist

May your laps be as happy as mine.

My TI Story
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Old 07-27-2012
westyswoods westyswoods is offline
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Rio, Wisconsin
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Default Mental Adaptive Processes


Welcome to the realization of how thoughtless we can be and what it takes to improve. Through this journey of TI the single most enlightening piece for me has been the mental development of focus. I like you could not do more than one focal point at a time and even that was a challenge to maintain. Time and persistence has given me a much greater and diverse ability.

If and when you start using a tempo trainer be prepared for some more learning and adapting. I for one had a tendency to hold my breath while trying to coordinate stroke with TT, just one of many challenges. These are all part of what makes this so different and stimulating for me.

Again welcome, hold on as the path is not like one you would expect.

Swim Silent and Be Well

Last edited by westyswoods : 07-27-2012 at 10:52 PM. Reason: grammar
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