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![]() I like to swim on one side like the beginners 1 arm dril, but start pulling with the normally always extended arm with only 25% of the force of the breathing arm. Just enought to keep more roll and momentum in the stroke.
Its quite relaxing and the sideways position feels very streamlined. Sort of loping light version. Last edited by Zenturtle : 12-03-2014 at 09:16 PM. |
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This is like the skate drill right, with a flutter kick, but using a normal kick and pulling with the arm that is extended into spear while breathing but only using a small amount of force?
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![]() Danny, going back to your OP, you were asking about shoulder pain. FWIW my shoulder pain seems to have hbeen caused by using my spear/catch to generate the rotation rather than using the kick. I didn't spot it before as this wasn't like pushing down to lift myself to breathe. Since starting a focus on the kick my shoulder is sorted.
Perhaps the low SPL fast pace shoulder problem arises from the demand on the shoulder for rotation (if this is being done) being greatly increased.
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Interesting to wonder how this fits with folks feelings about timing i.e the optimal focal point for the intiation of power application. I say it like this as there are "delays" from the point of applying power to the moment full power application is reached, due to the fluid medium, and also the fact that all the angles etc are in continuous flux.
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A psychological disorder is: "Any personal construction which is used repeatedly in spite of consistent invalidation." ~ George Kelly "The water is your friend.....you don't have to fight with water, just share the same spirit as the water, and it will help you move." ~ Aleksandr Popov |
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![]() I agree with Talvi and Danny.I have the same experience.
Entering too flat and let the bodyrotaion pull the arm down istead of having the arm under a slight downward angle that gives less friction on the bodyroll is a danger point for shoulder problems. In the end the bodyroll is the metronome of the stroke and the arm and leg movements have to be synced relative to the bodyroll. If you speed up the arm stroke without speeding up the bodyroll with the same amount you are putting the horses behind the cart. Basically its very simple. The start of the force in the pull is always the same in relation to the relative position in bodyroll. |
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A psychological disorder is: "Any personal construction which is used repeatedly in spite of consistent invalidation." ~ George Kelly "The water is your friend.....you don't have to fight with water, just share the same spirit as the water, and it will help you move." ~ Aleksandr Popov |
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![]() This sounds like a symphony
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I think these were the factors 1. Yes plenty of swimming 2. Swimming in a coached group session (better focus during my sprints so less turbulence) 3. A specific physical alteration - holding my lower abdomen in to raise my keel 4. Finding a specific number solution (SR vs SPL) that worked for my swimming as you have now done too. My turns are open so the 1.12 seconds is a fairly relaxed time for hand touching the tile to feet pushing off again. I'll do lots of power swim sessions over the winter as I enjoy them and mix them in with some occasional long meditative swims. I'm running my first marathon next spring so the majority of my winter training will be land rather than water based. |
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