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Old 11-21-2015
andyinnorway andyinnorway is offline
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Full underwater coverage of a sun yang swim.

If you ever wanted to illustrate what 'feel for the water' means this is a great video. His fingers are probing the water to feel when to initiate the stroke phase on each cycle. It's quite remarkable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-icqAiWOlPg
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Old 11-22-2015
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Have you noticed Terry does the same? And Natalie Coughlin, and etc etc.

Cant watch this one often enough ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ8iw8q2F9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivr6I-nDLCc

In my view his whole stroke is centered around his underwaterpulls.(together with streamlining on the other side)
Getting the big meathook in at one side,... winging past it on back muscles(streamline on the otherside),... anchoring the meathook at the other side..., winging past it(streamline on the other side)....and repeat.
He pulls so hard that he breathes out on every pull. like breathing out on boxing punches.
Probably other people will totally disagree.

if anybody is interested in takeing lessons from Sun Yang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl3ERpeL7CE
to watch subtitling , press the left square box in the right undercorner.

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Old 11-22-2015
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The proportions and relative positions of his thorax and legs remind me of Shinji. He has a very streamlined shape in the water. His feet stay above the lowest point of his chest. He certainly has a very powerful and efficient arm pull as well.
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Old 11-22-2015
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Interesting that on camera Sun Yang comes across as fully engaged with the kids, and genuinely interested in their progress, and not at all taken up with himself. This is hard to fake. I'm pleasantly surprised, as I had started to suspect that he was a bit of a pampered and spoilt superstar who was getting away with all kinds of self centred behaviour that often comes naturally with world championship- type public and state adulation.

Ridiculous crazy long efficient stroke too, of course, just cruising slowly in the pool.
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Old 11-23-2015
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The guy is under enormous pressure. The whole country is counting on him.
Can you imaging Phelps crying on TV? Or is this typical Chinese?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cma-Vcu7-ps

He will be so relieved when he can quit swimming over a few years. Will become a good coach perhaps

The crying is part of the show it seems. He does it everywhere..Sentimental folks these Chinese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC1GbLzKu1Y

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Old 11-23-2015
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I want to see him vs Greg Paltrinieri on the 1500, hope he'll show up the next time.

Salvo
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Old 11-26-2015
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Think Zenturtle has it right about the underwater pull. If this isn't an advert for what an EVF can do for you I don't know what is.

What is interesting for me is that for such a fast swimmer, I was expecting to see a very tight technique. His kicking is everywhere! I mean it clearly works, but he didn't get this from a TI workshop :)

The other aspect of his stroke that is curious is that he almost seems to throw a little dolphin action in there - he throws his spear so hard that the hip undulate with the effort.
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Old 11-26-2015
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Check this out - his stroke on a loop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uncOBURz-6o

If this guy is winning everything now, I can only think he is going to get better and better, because there are so many things he could technically improve. Even the fact that his left hand points UP before the catch….surely this isn't helping.
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Old 11-26-2015
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Its indeed his grown strenght that has enabled him to defeat Park Tae Hwan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBu2c-ZVp6M

it already looked that way in his race against Park Tae Hwan when he was much younger.
The same stroke when starting out, but it seems he just hasnt the strenght to hold this long stroke together till the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHzI...BFF7D18BF0A8D1

Normal built swimmers better take a look at Park instead of Sun Yang.
http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2012/0...ht-challenges/

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Old 11-26-2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grahamsellers View Post
Check this out - his stroke on a loop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uncOBURz-6o

If this guy is winning everything now, I can only think he is going to get better and better, because there are so many things he could technically improve. Even the fact that his left hand points UP before the catch….surely this isn't helping.
This is an amazing link! How do you find stuff like this?
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