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Old 12-25-2012
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Can you take 3-6 easy strokes without breathing at all and then stand up? From a push-off or from a standing superman glide? If not, I suspect that you are losing efficiency somewhere.
hi Coach, yep. I can swim 3-5 stroke from standup position without much struggling. I know that i my skating on the right is less stable than the other, plus other inefficiencies i.e catch,etc. I'm still working on basic drills, hoping to improve soon.
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Old 02-12-2013
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so to clarify the nodding drill is done during whole stroke not during skating drills correct??
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Old 02-12-2013
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Practicing the nodding drill during skate is actually a great way to isolate your head movement from the body rotation. Often we don't feel the correlation between lifting our head and loss of balance. In her first post Suzanne mentioned some focal points that she uses - "I Spy", "Shimmer", "So Near" and "Waves". In your skate position you have time to explore them and know exactly what you are seeing/feeling. This makes it easier to take the nod into whole stroke.
If you do not have enough propulsion in your skate, don't hesitate to use fins, but keep the propulsion under control. It's not about how fast you get done with the exercise, but rather about how well you feel and see.
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Old 02-13-2013
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Hi coaches and all!

This is a great thread..... But one quick question.

When in skate position, does the head move to nod, with the body staying in skate ?

I think this what happens when Terry does this drill in chapter 5 of the DVD.

However, when we roll to breath, I was under the impression that we roll like a log, as one unit, head and body rolling. But the drill seems to turn the head without the body moving.

Forgive me if this has been answered somewhere else in a thread.

Best regards

Russ
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Old 02-19-2013
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Hi all,
I've always been a traditional , though not stylish freestyle swimmer. and a month ago I turned out 3 x 3500 meter pool swims within a week, stopping every 400 mtrs for 30 seconds break. Looking to improve, I stumbled across TI. The cynic in me warned about being sold "snake oil", but because it made complete sense I thought I'd give it ago for a couple of months and see where it got me. I bought the book, watched the youtube's and started the drills. My stroke count has dropped through the floor but I can only manage 75 mtrs before having to catch my breath. I'm careful to drill, I watch my head positions, 3rd eye facing the wall, head down, swim down hill, water over the back of the neck. Being aware about the amount of water I am disturbing, minimum bubbles, recovery elbow lead to ear...etc...When it goes well it feels as though I'm speed ice skating, stretching a left kick with a right arm then glide while left arm recovers, then twist the torso, right kick left arm lead and glide. I'm struggling with right sided breathing, but that will come (always been a lefty).

Silly question 1, When you talk strokes per length do you mean
1 x left arm, 1 x right arm = 1 stroke or
1 x left, 1 x right = 2 strokes

If you mean the 1 x left, 1 x right = 1 stroke I'm doing 25m in 9 strokes.

Now because I breathe every other stroke, and now have reduced my stroke count from 15 to 9, Its takes longer between breathes and hence out of breath after 3 lengths.

So question no 2

Has anyone experienced the same issue, and is it just a matter of persevering with the 2 sided breathing and then getting used to the different timings, or am I out on my own here.

Andy

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Old 02-19-2013
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Hi Andy,
They way we here on the Forum usually relate it is as:
left= #1 right=#2, every "hand hit" (every time lead hand enters forward). This count, your count, too is relative to height and efficiency.

And yes the initial time spent discovering a glide can lengthen the time with your face down, not breathing. This is part of a progression, for you probably do not want to strive TO glide but have it become a natural part/ bi-product of a more streamlined and efficient/balanced body position while swimming; never pausing your stroking cycle (arms) only changing, as you say, and enhancing the timing.

As you begin to work with tempos, this timing will become more apparent as well as your ability to control it. (Slower tempos= more face time, quicker ones less)

Best,
Alan
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Old 02-22-2013
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Default looking at the water surface from below

Just started reading this thread and noticed how some people describe how beautiful the water surface looks from below. I would only like to add that there is nothing finer than watching raindrops hit the water from under the surface.

A little off subject, I guess, but I couldn't resist.
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Old 02-23-2013
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Just started reading this thread and noticed how some people describe how beautiful the water surface looks from below. I would only like to add that there is nothing finer than watching raindrops hit the water from under the surface.

A little off subject, I guess, but I couldn't resist.
I agree with that Danny !! It looks like a snow storm as the rain drops fall through the water! The simplest things in nature are the best!

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Old 02-23-2013
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There's also the satisfaction of knowing that you don't have to worry about getting wet!
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Old 03-20-2013
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Default Breathing during the skate drill

I am both a TI peep and a BT peep. For me they are completely related since my first sprint tri last year proved that I need help to learn to swim (17min 500m swim! - which included panic, choking, and doing 80% on my back).

Anyway - I have started TI last month and I am a firm believer in sequencing. I am comfortable on my back and in sweet spot, but I am having issues with the skate drill.

When I am on my left side and come up for air I am inhaling water all the time. Any strategies for breathing during these early drills?

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Matt
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