Originally Posted by daveblt
I have learned to NOT do that type of recovery,and I don't think TI would recommend this recovery ? I think this would eventually cause shoulder impingement and with the weight of the arm out of the water cause balance issues .Maybe for her it works though .
TI looking at Terry when he swam did not but I guess some leel is ok for a healthy person wth otherwise healthy posture, etc. more and more our daily life promote position where the elbow pops out, the forearm is under pronated (max pronation is not reachable by many people), rounded shoulders; etc
=> many issues shoulder impingement but also thoracic syndroms (from the scalene to the pectoralis minor to various wrist nerves and vascular issues).
It is tempting to engage the big powerful muscles that rotates the humerus and moves the arm closer to the front of the torso when nowadays weaker back muscles is the basic (I got told by a teacher that it is safe to assume that most people lower trapezius are way to weak).
It is quite complicate but if you don't rely on internal rotation you have to move you scapula around and it is a pretty solid articulation (no real joint /serratus). As the scapula moves and you extend your arm and fore arm you hae to use the long head triceps more extensively (you keep you elbow closer to your body). It is significantly different kinetic chain, you have to feel it for your self I'm not sure if trained properly it is less efficient actually I would think Phelps does that (though he engage internal rotator for extra juice or not pull too deep).