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Old 08-25-2018
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Originally Posted by Zenturtle View Post
I have said this before, Terry is the most non TI like TI swimmerI can find in all the youtube TI footage on internet.
When looking at that pace footage he could almost sell SS stuff.
At the edge of front quadrant and a pretty rotary and fluient style.

ok where was that footage? Yep here it is.

what is Terry doing here?
Looks to me he has a little weight on catch here, but it seems most of his pressure is coming form catching his rotational inertia with his arms. He doesnt moves his shoulder so much forward together with his arm and doesnt have as much core loading/tension as a lot of elite swimmers use, which makes the weight transfer less obvious. He is also bobbing a bit from the straightish arm mechanics at the higher speeds.
His patient arm is not a motionless dead arm. Its just moving slowly to a better angle to grab water after entry with a little bit pressure under it, and increasing the pressure relatively gradually compared to other more catchup style TI swimmers.
On the whole it looks very much standard swimming style with a 2BK.

Regarding pressure under the arm, it looks to me Terry is doing his personal version of active glide, perhaps a little more weightless at his lower speeds.

Do you agree with my description of the difference between the shown TI kraulstroke and the weight on catch stroke?
ZT, I prefer this film of Terry, because it shows his stroke from underwater.
That said, it appears to me in the link you gave above that he starts his catch earlier as his spl increases which isn't surprising.

I agree with you that Terry's stroke looks a lot like the film referred to as active glide in the link you gave above. The skill for doing this seems very difficult to me. Right now, I am just focusing on letting the shoulders rotate enough before I go into a catch, because if I don't do this I find I am dropping my elbow. The difficulty in Terry's stroke (to me) is how to start moving the down side arm downward before the up side hand goes in and not to drop my elbow. One thing at a time. I still need to work on the stroke as I understand Stuart to be describing it. Once I feel I have internalized that (which will take some time) I may start working on the subtleties that Terry seems to add on top of this, if I can figure out how he really does it.
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