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	<title>Comments on: Want to Swim Faster? Don&#8217;t Close Your Fingers</title>
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		<title>By: Fred Burnett</title>
		<link>https://www.totalimmersion.net/blog/want-swim-faster-dont-close-fingers/#comment-6149</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2017 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am by no means an expert on this, but this article would be confusing for someone who is just now understanding this conept...As I understand it...when you reduce drag, you increase speed...so why does the article above state....&quot;freestyle swimmers are most efficient when they swim with fingers slightly apart, as this swimmer shows.&quot; and then it reads...

...&quot;This is how a 10-degree separation looks.

Physicists using 3D-printed plastic hand and arm models in a wind 
tunnel found that the model with its fingers spread 10° CREATED THE MOST DRAG because the slight opening between the fingers still obstructed 
air flow.&quot;

...then the article switches back to....

&quot;Though the subject under study was swimming, they performed this 
experiment in a wind tunnel rather than a pool to avoid the influence of
 surface waves. Because fluid dynamics follows the same principles as 
aero dynamics, they’d have reached the same conclusion in water.

The researchers calculated that a 10-degree finger spread COULD BOOST A SWIMMERS SPEED by 2.5% compared with swimming with fingers pressed 
together.&quot;

I thought maybe this should be mentioned for those who are trying to grasp the concept fully.  In no way am I trying to be a...&quot;know it all&quot;/ &quot;nit picky&quot; editor...I just want to help out.

This is still great information.  If I would have been taught this when I was competing I know I would have had many more medals and ribbons with my name on them.  

Thanks for the great info.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am by no means an expert on this, but this article would be confusing for someone who is just now understanding this conept&#8230;As I understand it&#8230;when you reduce drag, you increase speed&#8230;so why does the article above state&#8230;.&#8221;freestyle swimmers are most efficient when they swim with fingers slightly apart, as this swimmer shows.&#8221; and then it reads&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8221;This is how a 10-degree separation looks.</p>
<p>Physicists using 3D-printed plastic hand and arm models in a wind<br />
tunnel found that the model with its fingers spread 10° CREATED THE MOST DRAG because the slight opening between the fingers still obstructed<br />
air flow.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;then the article switches back to&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Though the subject under study was swimming, they performed this<br />
experiment in a wind tunnel rather than a pool to avoid the influence of<br />
 surface waves. Because fluid dynamics follows the same principles as<br />
aero dynamics, they’d have reached the same conclusion in water.</p>
<p>The researchers calculated that a 10-degree finger spread COULD BOOST A SWIMMERS SPEED by 2.5% compared with swimming with fingers pressed<br />
together.&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought maybe this should be mentioned for those who are trying to grasp the concept fully.  In no way am I trying to be a&#8230;&#8221;know it all&#8221;/ &#8220;nit picky&#8221; editor&#8230;I just want to help out.</p>
<p>This is still great information.  If I would have been taught this when I was competing I know I would have had many more medals and ribbons with my name on them.  </p>
<p>Thanks for the great info.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Davenport</title>
		<link>https://www.totalimmersion.net/blog/want-swim-faster-dont-close-fingers/#comment-6115</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2016 14:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lucky you!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucky you!!</p>
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		<title>By: KearneyHimself</title>
		<link>https://www.totalimmersion.net/blog/want-swim-faster-dont-close-fingers/#comment-6112</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2016 13:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being a geriatric recreational swimmer, I never sprint! But I do try to avoid injuries that take longer to heal with advancing age. 
I have been kicked by breaststrokers (even from the adjacent lane) hit almost anywhere by backstrokers with no sense of direction and have even had my goggles kicked off by a maniac wearing enormous fins! However, I can say with absolute certainty that I have never injured a finger when swimming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a geriatric recreational swimmer, I never sprint! But I do try to avoid injuries that take longer to heal with advancing age.<br />
I have been kicked by breaststrokers (even from the adjacent lane) hit almost anywhere by backstrokers with no sense of direction and have even had my goggles kicked off by a maniac wearing enormous fins! However, I can say with absolute certainty that I have never injured a finger when swimming.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Davenport</title>
		<link>https://www.totalimmersion.net/blog/want-swim-faster-dont-close-fingers/#comment-6111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Davenport]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2016 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You  certainly shouldn&#039;t be going next to the lane ropes :) but occasionally it happens . When it happens you certainly want to reduce the chances of digit damage -  keep closed fingers when in narrow lanes :)
Long slow full rotations are good for 10k plus swims but for shorter sprint type races (1500m etc) try rotating less KH and your speed will definitely increase.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You  certainly shouldn&#8217;t be going next to the lane ropes <img src="https://www.totalimmersion.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> but occasionally it happens . When it happens you certainly want to reduce the chances of digit damage &#8211;  keep closed fingers when in narrow lanes <img src="https://www.totalimmersion.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /><br />
Long slow full rotations are good for 10k plus swims but for shorter sprint type races (1500m etc) try rotating less KH and your speed will definitely increase.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hendriks</title>
		<link>https://www.totalimmersion.net/blog/want-swim-faster-dont-close-fingers/#comment-6110</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2016 00:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a question that comes up very frequently during our Workshops and Private Lessons.
What I have found is that when I keep my fingers together that it takes effort and the mere effort of keeping the fingers together tenses up the muscles in the forearm.... adding resistance to the water we are trying to move through. Relaxing the fingers on the other hand also relaxes the muscles in the forearm and makes it easier to move through the water as our arms move to full extension. 
When we catch and hold the water our forearms &quot;tone up&quot; or are engaged as we use that same resistance to press the water backwards.
I try to keep things simple.... Everything going forward should be relaxed.. Everything going backwards should be engaged and toned until released.
TI Coach Peter]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a question that comes up very frequently during our Workshops and Private Lessons.<br />
What I have found is that when I keep my fingers together that it takes effort and the mere effort of keeping the fingers together tenses up the muscles in the forearm&#8230;. adding resistance to the water we are trying to move through. Relaxing the fingers on the other hand also relaxes the muscles in the forearm and makes it easier to move through the water as our arms move to full extension.<br />
When we catch and hold the water our forearms &#8220;tone up&#8221; or are engaged as we use that same resistance to press the water backwards.<br />
I try to keep things simple&#8230;. Everything going forward should be relaxed.. Everything going backwards should be engaged and toned until released.<br />
TI Coach Peter</p>
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		<title>By: KearneyHimself</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2016 13:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, slight exaggeration! But over the top of the shoulder, otherwise you will be trying to roll one way and the weight of your arm will be tending to pull you back again. Certainly shouldn&#039;t be going anywhere near lane ropes or swimmers going in the other direction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, slight exaggeration! But over the top of the shoulder, otherwise you will be trying to roll one way and the weight of your arm will be tending to pull you back again. Certainly shouldn&#8217;t be going anywhere near lane ropes or swimmers going in the other direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kirill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2016 11:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;recovery is over the top of your head&quot; - this sounds like overrotation, no ?
I mean, it takes enormous focus and core muscles work to stay &quot;flatter&quot; and swing sideways, at least this way I can achieve recommended 35-45 degrees body rotation(and not more!).
With that said, I do agree with relaxed fingers, especially on recovery and in tiny moment of &quot;skate&quot;. 
When I press back, fingers do stay apart, but they are definitely not relaxed. (well, at least not the same way as during recovery).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;recovery is over the top of your head&#8221; &#8211; this sounds like overrotation, no ?<br />
I mean, it takes enormous focus and core muscles work to stay &#8220;flatter&#8221; and swing sideways, at least this way I can achieve recommended 35-45 degrees body rotation(and not more!).<br />
With that said, I do agree with relaxed fingers, especially on recovery and in tiny moment of &#8220;skate&#8221;.<br />
When I press back, fingers do stay apart, but they are definitely not relaxed. (well, at least not the same way as during recovery).</p>
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		<title>By: Inge Nordsteien</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2016 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Luckily, for us there are other engineers out there with CFD-tools (Computational Fluid Dynamics) combined with an interest for swimming. The finding in this analysis indicates that the optimal finger spacing is a passive spacing. Please see link: http://www.albertominetti.it/albertominetti.it/Theor_Loco_Blog/Entries/2009/6/9_The_optimum_finger_spacing_in_human_swimming.html

TI-Coach Inge]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luckily, for us there are other engineers out there with CFD-tools (Computational Fluid Dynamics) combined with an interest for swimming. The finding in this analysis indicates that the optimal finger spacing is a passive spacing. Please see link: <a href="http://www.albertominetti.it/albertominetti.it/Theor_Loco_Blog/Entries/2009/6/9_The_optimum_finger_spacing_in_human_swimming.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.albertominetti.it/albertominetti.it/Theor_Loco_Blog/Entries/2009/6/9_The_optimum_finger_spacing_in_human_swimming.html</a></p>
<p>TI-Coach Inge</p>
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		<title>By: KearneyHimself</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2016 18:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If your fingers are catching in the lane ropes, you are not swimming the TI way. Try rolling around your body axis so that recovery is over the top of your head, rather than swinging your arms out sideways. Less work and makes it easier to breathe without lifting your head out of the water.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your fingers are catching in the lane ropes, you are not swimming the TI way. Try rolling around your body axis so that recovery is over the top of your head, rather than swinging your arms out sideways. Less work and makes it easier to breathe without lifting your head out of the water.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Davenport</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Davenport]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2016 10:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate swimming with fingers relaxed. They start to wobble and vibrate and totally put me off concentrating on important techniques that REALLY affect performance. So plus 2.5% added to minus 5% is not going to improve my performance. Also I train in fairly narrow European lanes and the chances of catching lane ropes or swimmers hands are quite high and fingers together is a very sensible training strategy to avoid damaged digits. I too am a physicist but am not yet convinced  by the researchers conclusions. Water is not the same fluid as air. They have NOT controlled their confounding variables. An interesting discussion raised once more :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate swimming with fingers relaxed. They start to wobble and vibrate and totally put me off concentrating on important techniques that REALLY affect performance. So plus 2.5% added to minus 5% is not going to improve my performance. Also I train in fairly narrow European lanes and the chances of catching lane ropes or swimmers hands are quite high and fingers together is a very sensible training strategy to avoid damaged digits. I too am a physicist but am not yet convinced  by the researchers conclusions. Water is not the same fluid as air. They have NOT controlled their confounding variables. An interesting discussion raised once more <img src="https://www.totalimmersion.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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