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Old 12-03-2016
jesse7382
 
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hi, i'm a new for learning butterfly by the movie from youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twGoqn1_wWM&t=697s

here are some problem:
1. when i'm pulsing my chest, just can't help kicking my leg, is this normal?
2. maybe my ankle doesn't have flexibility, i bought fin and expected some progress, but it doesn't work for me, i can't move forward without fin, even worse, i move back when i tried do the head-lead dolphin. could i ask for some suggestion from you? or just practice more?
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Old 12-04-2016
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hi, i'm a new for learning butterfly by the movie from youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twGoqn1_wWM&t=697s
Be aware that the video you referenced is from the training program TI was using about a decade and a half ago. I suspect that it was posted without TI's permission, which would mean that posting it constituted a violation of TI's copyright.

One of the problems we had with that drill sequence was that it tended to addict swimmers to the use of fins. You may have better experience with our current drill sequence, which is contained in this DVD:

http://www.totalimmersion.net/store/...l#.WEPU5oWcGdI

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here are some problem:
1. when i'm pulsing my chest, just can't help kicking my leg, is this normal?
Pressing your chest into the water is supposed to initiate a pulse that travels all the way down to your toes.

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2. maybe my ankle doesn't have flexibility, i bought fin and expected some progress, but it doesn't work for me, i can't move forward without fin, even worse, i move back when i tried do the head-lead dolphin. could i ask for some suggestion from you? or just practice more?
We no longer use head-lead dolphins, nor do we have people do lots of laps of body dolphins, since many swimmers found it difficult to do this without wearing fins. I would suggest that you try only doing a few pulses at a time, then stopping, standing, and starting again. When you proceed to the drills that involve your arms, you should have less of a problem.


Bob
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Old 12-04-2016
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I also tried to learn butterfly with this program. For me it didn't work at all.
I wasn't able to connect the arm movement with the body dolphin.
I at least learned butterfly with the DVD "Betterfly for everybody". The concept is different. You first learn the idea of the dolphin movement, then, very early you learn the arm stroke to assist the dolphin. The arms help to do a fluent body movement and find the correct timing, not the other way round.
I began about 11 month ago (without anyone to coach me and with training about once a week) my butterfly is going quite well.

Greetings, Inge
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Old 12-04-2016
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hi CoachBobM and IngeA, thanks for Response from you.

i'll go buying the DVD you talked about, wish that i can have better experience.
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Old 01-07-2018
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I also tried to learn butterfly with this program. For me it didn't work at all.
I wasn't able to connect the arm movement with the body dolphin.

http://lolebazkon.com/
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