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Old 09-01-2013
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Hey, Richardsk,

This is from the thread 'Definitions and formulas'.

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The WCF is wingspan/height. So your ratio is 1.03. (Mine is 1.02).
That suggests your Distance Per Stroke should be in a range of 50-70 percent of Wingspan. Where in that range you are on a particular swim will be influenced by factors like distance swum and Tempo.
So, yeah, my guess was the same as yours, from what I read above. If anyone's charting their TI practice, I'd like to know what practice sets you're doing and over how much time you have achieved sustainable increments of DPS.
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Hello Martin K.,

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...Others had much the same ability in this respect which convinced me the Cooper test was useless for those trying to be 'serious' athletes but better than nothing for others...
Don't forget the origins of Cooper's test in "Aerobic". He designed it for at least untrained people and gave them a program to increase their aerobic efficiency. It has been similar to TI in Swimming 20 years later. I'm sure Cooper's test and training plans still work for these group in walking and running or jogging. Though they are far more boring than TI-drills! In his book, if I remember right, Cooper just stated that sportsmen always fitted in his best groups "effortless". Even Cooper's "Century-Club" was ment for hobby joggers not for world class athletes.

Don't know if and how Cooper's ideas have developed for mortals in other sports. They should and surely could.

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Hello Werner, I understand your point about Cooper's test being principally for the untrained. I just felt that he built his follow-up programmes, and his reputation, around the test. My concern was that the happy campers who passed the test often thought they must be fit which was not really the case. But I suppose you're right in that it might have been better than nothing. I'll get back in my box!

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Hello Martin T.,

sorry, there should be no complaint in my post. No one here in the forum should go back in his box, if I understood right. In his pool will be OK to best!

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Hello Werner, I understand your point about Cooper's test being principally for the untrained. I just felt that he built his follow-up programmes, and his reputation, around the test.
His reputation sure maybe. But the Institute itself is now known to be more of a research center, with many many publications that often go beyond generic exercising. They may have found the "test" to be a good fit for some of these studies, but that wouldn't be the case for the majority of them.
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