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Old 01-12-2010
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There is another option. Look ahead just before turning to breathe. That way you could look down the rest of the time.
I would say be very careful using this method. It can encourage the dreaded lifting of the head to get air. If you look ahead by just moving your eyes that is safe. However any lifting of the head will push the feet down and compromise your balance.
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I would say be very careful using this method. It can encourage the dreaded lifting of the head to get air. If you look ahead by just moving your eyes that is safe. However any lifting of the head will push the feet down and compromise your balance.
Then call it loping?
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Then call it loping?
I think that would be accurate Shuumai. I see many of the elite swimmers doing that especially in the sprint distances. When I see us average swimmers do that it looks very work intensive and I would even say inefficient. My times and enjoyment :0) improved when I smoothed out and one of the biggest contributors was not lifting my head and turning it instead.
Again it works for me and the other works for others. Just wanted to hi light what could be a trap for some.
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I think that would be accurate Shuumai. I see many of the elite swimmers doing that especially in the sprint distances. When I see us average swimmers do that it looks very work intensive and I would even say inefficient. My times and enjoyment :0) improved when I smoothed out and one of the biggest contributors was not lifting my head and turning it instead.
Again it works for me and the other works for others. Just wanted to hi light what could be a trap for some.
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Default teaching my face when to breathe.

Today, I had to share a lane, with me on the sunny side. I forgot to bring my shaded goggles, so when I came up to breathe, I closed my eyes, and I discovered that I don't even need my eyes to know when to breathe. I can feel when my mouth clears the water enough to breathe. Pretty cool.

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Today, I had to share a lane with me on the sunny side. I forgot to bring my shaded goggles, so when I came up to breathe, I closed my eyes, and I discovered that I don't even need my eyes to know when to breathe. I can feel when my mouth clears the water enough to breathe. Pretty cool.
I wonder if closing your eyes in preparation to breathe acted as a timing cue as well. Have you tried swimming a few strokes with your eyes closed? I hear that it's a good experience, but I'm not ready for it personally. Much respect for blind swimmers.
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i honestly don't think timing had much to do with it. i closed my eyes when i began to turn to breathe, and i waited to feel my mouth clear the water. it was purely sensory and was actually more immediate and accurate than using my eyes to "see" when my mouth was out of the water. try it, and let me know what you felt.
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Default i think i fixed my uphill swimming.

so, shu, did you try breathing w/o seeing yet?
anywho, i've had this big problem with swimming uphill, and i think i fixed it today by spearing to around 4:30. i felt much more balanced in the water and noticed water flying up in the air with my kick at times, which means my feet were closer to the surface of the water. i wonder if this problem has to do with my body composition. i have longer legs and a shorter trunk (the opposite of phelps).
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so, shu, did you try breathing w/o seeing yet?
No, but I noticed something else. If I go underwater without goggles, I tend to hold my breath. I can't regulate my out-breath as well without seeing clearly. More experiments are in order.
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No, but I noticed something else.


If I go underwater without goggles, I tend to hold my breath.
I can't regulate my out-breath as well without seeing clearly.
More experiments are in order.
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ya learn something NEW daily!
and if I say use goggles...someone else will say swim with ya eyes closed!

go figure
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