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Old 12-14-2010
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Default Richard...I always indicate to the participant...when using equipement

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Bob, Pat, Johnny and all who contributed to this thread

I am no expert

but I have been taking a keen interest in training methods in various sports for a long time and all that I have read leads me to the conclusion that attempting to improve any movement in any sport by adding extra weight or resistance is a vain endeavor. The skill you are training is not the skill you are trying to train. Skill acquisition has been shown over and over again to be extremely specific.

This is not to say that strength training is a vain endeavor but there are probably better methods of training the muscles used in freestyle kicking than this one. However, I am prepared to accept that Randy Reese may be right and that all the experts who found that skill training is specific were wrong.

He probably isn't, though.
Hello my very dear, clear friend and cherish your input as well! but...
I always tell an individual that just because "we" or I am using equipment!
It is always their choice to decide exactly what is right for them!

and your choice may be total immersion
but it's not for everybody
no matter how much "we" think it should be!

I was in search of a better stroke...
why else would I be here...
it was my search and find!

I don't push it on others....
I hated it when the aquatic director
told me I was swimming all wrong....when I believe it worked for me!

she didn't even swim total immersion,
but
because I didn't swim like her....I was wrong!and she of course is right!

and
my input is
worth 2 cents!

swim well be silent and
just watch, listen and response to those who question you about your stroke or swimming style!

or you in love with your doctor
or could you be searching for a new one!
It is ultimately your choice....ain't it really guys! sending my love

unconditionally,
grab some of it grant! or any others
that know about it!

P.S.
the pool noodles
hold 200lbs ...
some of the bigger ones hold 400lbs...

and I tell people
with 2 of these have too much buoyancy and equipment
it is just one of those signs that a trained, qualified (and respected)
lifeguard has to watch for!

be silent or not
you will ultimately get a response back
or NOT!

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Hi Pat

I'm not saying it's wrong to swim with shoes on, just that I don't think it will improve the swimmer's kick and I wouldn't want to try it myself, even if the local pool would allow it, which they most probably wouldn't.

Coaches in various sports have favored similar approaches. Percy Cerutti, for example, who trained some notable middle distance runners back in the 'fifties and 'sixties used to have them running up hills and through sand dunes, and one of his runners, Herb Elliot, ran some very fast miles and held the world record for a while on this training. I saw him run in Dublin in about 1961 and the first five runners in the race broke the four minute barrier, which was still quite a novelty in those days. Elliot led the race the whole way, which was his style. Now your granny can do it, it seems, rather like swimming records that were once thought of as very fast.

Swimming with shoes may be good for the heart and lungs, but I'm sure something else would be just as effective.

As I said before, I'm quite prepared to accept that Randy Reese knows more about swimming training than I do, which wouldn't be difficult.
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Hi Pat

I'm not saying it's wrong to swim with shoes on, just that I don't think it will improve the swimmer's kick and I wouldn't want to try it myself, even if the local pool would allow it, which they most probably wouldn't. . .
.
here is the states ... we don't have many rules....

I am at a pool that does not have a lifeguard...

and over 10 years ago...at 43
in lifeguarding class we had to jump in fully dress & undress and
make our clothes useful to keep us afloat!
and shoes usually float!;)

i am sorry that you will not get to try that!

I should of got extra points...
the guys that came in shorts that day...
asked me if they could use my (full-size-plus blue jeans)

I'm saying everyone has a choice to swim how they want to!
or the way you want to swim (right or wrong?)
It is a choice and the guru told me of his choices
and his right to make them! so I learn a lot here!

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Hi Pat

In life-saving classes they have to get in the pool with clothes on. I suppose that's the same everywhere. I don't know about the shoes though, because I've never done a life-saving class.

If I trained as a lifeguard I would have to have a life-saving qualification.

Then I could practically live at the pool! And maybe wear boots as well.

Actually, I'd rather swim than watch other people swim.
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Hi Pat

In life-saving classes they have to get in the pool with clothes on. I suppose that's the same everywhere. I don't know about the shoes though, because I've never done a life-saving class.

If I trained as a lifeguard I would have to have a life-saving qualification.

Then I could practically live at the pool! And maybe wear boots as well.

Actually, I'd rather swim than watch other people swim.
i enjoy watching swimming, dancing,
and
then sometimes I even jump into the scene of it all! & make my splash!;)
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Hi Pat

In life-saving classes they have to get in the pool with clothes on. I suppose that's the same everywhere. I don't know about the shoes though, because I've never done a life-saving class.

If I trained as a lifeguard I would have to have a life-saving qualification.

Then I could practically live at the pool! And maybe wear boots as well.

Actually, I'd rather swim than watch other people swim.

and being able to watch a pool, and then just maybe ya really get challenged!

I did!
jump in
the waters great!
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Old 12-15-2010
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Default how many Coaches have the qualifications of a lifeguard

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Hi Pat

In life-saving classes they have to get in the pool with clothes on.
I suppose that's the same everywhere. I don't know about the shoes though, because I've never done a life-saving class.

If I trained as a lifeguard I would have to have a life-saving qualification.

Then I could practically live at the pool! And maybe wear boots as well.

Actually, I'd rather swim than watch other people swim.
I became a lifeguard, not because I wanted to watch the pool!
that would be one wrong reason (to me at least...that was my thought about it!)
but if I was encountered with a problem around the aquatic environment...
I wanted to know and be skilled and be wise enough to know just what to do!

How many of you guys want that?
I didn't want to depend on someone else!
I wanted to know!

I do know!
I own those skills!
I am proud of those as well!

It is a certificate I have kept up with and updated!
Any of you proud of me!
I don't care... It's a one of those gifts I give to me! get yours or NOT
I don't care!


funny thing about becoming a certified lifeguard....
nobody cares about it!
or proud of me for getting it but ME!

and
that is all that matters
ain't it guys?

all here want to know about how to swim...
not have to save someone that can not!

any respect me
for saving saving one that can not save himself!
hi Mikey! i can but I rather NOT prove myself to YOU

so I get to watch which pool toy
you decide to use & wonder
why are you choosing it or NOT

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