Total Immersion Forums  

Go Back   Total Immersion Forums > Freestyle
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-15-2016
Zenturtle Zenturtle is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,898
Zenturtle
Default Finally some gold

It was a disaster in the pool these olympics, but luckily Sharon van Rouwendaal grabbed the gold in the 10K open water swim.
So Salvo, we also have some gold now ha,ha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrnHDwuytRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWl1ms1AM6k

LIke so many open water swimmers, she is just a little bit too slow to win in international pool events
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j51NadgJYaM

Maybe Ferry Weertman can do the same tomorrow...

Last edited by Zenturtle : 08-17-2016 at 08:33 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-16-2016
Zenturtle Zenturtle is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,898
Zenturtle
Default

And he did it! Also gold in the male 10K olympic swim!
http://dailynews.openwaterswimming.com/

Here is Weertman practicing his patient catch...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPjg1AexohE

during a race it becomes a little lope again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9U4GcasxUI

Last edited by Zenturtle : 08-16-2016 at 07:15 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-17-2016
s.sciame s.sciame is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Rome, Italy
Posts: 479
s.sciame
Default

Great race, the final sprint was epic! At less than 30s to go Gianniotis was well ahead of all the others (see the picture in the interesting article you provided), Weertman did a great job.

I was hit by his catch up stroke, in the middle of the race I guess he was the only one swimming under 60SPM (even Mellouli had a faster rate), he looked much taller than 1.88m.

Despite swimming in the sea with currents, swells etc, it seems to me that these swimmers don't change their pool stroke that much (the famous punchy faster/shorter stroke to overcome the currents seems to be another false myth): take Mellouli for instance, I saw the same (beautiful) pool stroke with just a bit slower rate and maybe a lighter kick. Same for Weertman.

Another curious thing I noted: before the start, when warming up toward the start line, one swimmer (don't know who he was) did the Egyptian freestyle drill (ie freestyle with one leg out of the water, still).

This is Thomas Lurz's favourite drill by the way.

Salvo
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-17-2016
CoachStuartMcDougal's Avatar
CoachStuartMcDougal CoachStuartMcDougal is offline
coach
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,353
CoachStuartMcDougal
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by s.sciame View Post

Despite swimming in the sea with currents, swells etc, it seems to me that these swimmers don't change their pool stroke that much (the famous punchy faster/shorter stroke to overcome the currents seems to be another false myth)
Yup, it's a myth or should I say physics. Staying below the chop/swell surface the water is quiet. Crawling above and over - the water is going to win. However, one has to practice in lumpy/turning conditions, learn to stay low and remain stable from the middle and resist impulse seeking stability with hands and feet (high turnover).

Stuart
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-17-2016
Zenturtle Zenturtle is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,898
Zenturtle
Default

A lot of top swimmers in the netherlands are trained by Marcel Wouda.
He likes the classical long stroke and they train a lot at slow tempo technique stuff.
Once you have learnt that in the pool you swim like that in the open water too if its possible.
Sharon van Rouwendaal didnt flourish on that regime. She likes to work hard and train mega milages, so se went to France where they do a lot more yardage.
She went from 40k a week to 90 k a week and that worked for her.
I think they ruined Femke Heemskerk with a stroke thats too long for her. You have to be able to sustain it at high speed.

I havent seen any race. It was all at 3-4 after midnight.
If anyone has a link to some good footage...

Last edited by Zenturtle : 08-17-2016 at 02:18 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-18-2016
milbourn
 
Posts: n/a
Default

No wonder why Netherlands won in swimming because Marcel Wouda was the first Dutch world champion in men swimming.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-25-2016
Zenturtle Zenturtle is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,898
Zenturtle
Default

The TI fans must love how catchup stroking Weertman passes `flailing ` Poort.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQY6EoYVRxs (from 8 min mark)

(though nobody could hold Poorts suicide mission together probably.)
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.