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Old 02-03-2016
IngeA IngeA is offline
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I breath out as soon as my head enters the water and I breath in as soon as my face is clearing the surface. But I breath with the arm sweep and not during the recovery. I'm breathing in the wrong phase of the whole arm cycle.
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Old 02-14-2016
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I got it.
Not the breathing was the fault, it was only indicating that something was wrong:
at the end of the arm sweep I was diving in instead of stretching out, so it came that the face and the body reentered too early.
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Old 02-14-2016
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I think I may be making the same mistake. I'll try to find out tomorrow. I have now resumed my effort to learn fly. I suspect that my inflexible shoulders may be a limiting factor.
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Old 02-15-2016
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First of all, I am not a coach. I started learning butterfly stroke following the video "Better Fly for Every Body" a year ago. And now, I can swim this stroke 100 meters. The first 75 meters are in good shape, but the last 25 meters is kind of tired and short of breath. I understand I still have a long way to go.

As you said the breathing-in starts when your mouth is clear and out of water. Attached are some still images I found in YouTube. They are about the positions between hands and head. Hope they are helpful to you.
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File Type: jpg Butterfly Hands and Head 1.jpg (49.1 KB, 10 views)
File Type: jpg Butterfly Hands and Head 2.jpg (51.9 KB, 10 views)
File Type: jpg Butterfly Hands and Head 3.jpg (52.2 KB, 9 views)
File Type: jpg Butterfly Hands and Head 4.jpg (54.6 KB, 8 views)
File Type: jpg Butterfly Hands and Head 5.jpg (43.3 KB, 8 views)
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Old 02-15-2016
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That's it. And at the point of picture 3 I was rounding my shoulders instead of taking them back.
So I had two body waves, one with the arm sweep, one with the recovery, instead of one big body wave with two pulses (kicks). And so I was reentering too early.
It's also left much to do. I'm not reentering properly and much other things, but I got the rhythm.
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Old 02-15-2016
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I read my last post again and think it's not quite right:

There are also two body waves, but the first one is a smaller one directed more upward, the second one is a accelerated one directed more forward (and as a result of the first one downward with the entering of the arms).
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