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Old 07-20-2016
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Default Getting propulsion from your weightshifts

Disclaimer: I am a rather arm oriented swimmer, so rather focussed on optimal arm action to achieve propulsion.
See this post from that perspective,

I think this guy shows very well how a weight shifts links to a forward reaction on the low side.
In my view preparing a good catching paddle on the low side right after arm entry is essential to get maximum effect from the roll, fall of the highside and kick to link these actions to the waiting prepared paddle to torque backward and shove your body forward. This way the fall of the high side really gives an effortless forward surge if high side and low side are connected.
The relative armposition has to be right to let that high side fall connect to an already pretty vertical paddle so the paddle movenent is effective in sending a force backward and not down, or doing nothing with it, if the arm is still pointing forward.

Thats a big difference with the stuff all the beginners are doing.
This power connection is missing.
So for all the intermediate swimmers still wondering why they dont get faster.
They could probably learn something from this footage.Not only from his kick/hip drive, breathing etc,but also from his underwater front end action and timing. (ideally he would have a bit higher elbow, but this action is achievable for almost everyone)


A good TI example in my view:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU43HbBwJlo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJi3478iKKY

Comparexd to beginner style:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SaJ4G6_zw4


Can everybody swim like him?
Well, he is a floater.(mmmm, can he float with his arm under the surfae too?) That makes it al a bit easier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfW5Xe-NHdo

But Matt isnt a floater and his stroke looks good too, so its also possible for non-floaters.
Usually non-floaters will kick a litle deeper.

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Strange version of 'Deck The Halls' on the sound track. ;-)
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But Matt isnt a floater and his stroke looks good too, so its also possible for non-floaters.
Usually non-floaters will kick a litle deeper.
Which Matt --》Hudson?
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Who else? ;-)
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Who else? ;-)
MH?? That is news to me. In his threads on the subject he never identifies as a sinker. Besides he doesn't look very dense.

Btw, if someone lied this guy was Shinji, I would believe it. They swim so identically.

Chances are Shinji sowed the first TI seeds all around Asia and his imprimatur has lingered.
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Old 07-21-2016
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Not really a sinker, but he has to kick a bit to stay horizontal in superman float, like a lot of men.
There are a lot of Shinji-like swimmers there indeed.

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Mat Hudson definately a sinker
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Mat Hudson definately a sinker
So then body density is really not the sole determinant: he looks neither bony nor muscular. In other words, you can'take always tell from looking at someone if they are sinkers. Or maybe bone density which we can' see.
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So then body density is really not the sole determinant: he looks neither bony nor muscular. In other words, you can'take always tell from looking at someone if they are sinkers. Or maybe bone density which we can' see.
Mat is denser than water. (body, not mind). have you met Mat? He's lean and muscular. No spare body fat.
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Mat is denser than water. (body, not mind). have you met Mat? He's lean and muscular. No spare body fat.

No I have not. Just go on his website to watch his videos. I don't recall noticing any bodyfat. His body looks very fit and loose but not muscular stiff. In other words he doesn't look like someone who lifts weight. Thought maybe a case of heavy bones.

I have worked on softening my kick to remove splashing. But the city aquatics lady told me last week, I needed to kick more because I have little bodyfat causing me to slant.

I have cut down on weightlifting. I was also thinking of cutting down on swimming for now to slow my metabolism and regain some fat. But then my stamina gains will suffer.
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