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Old 07-11-2013
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Hy everybody, i'm Cristiana and sorry for my english (I'm from Italy);
I'm a master swimmer since 2011, not have a racing swimmer story.
I'm trying to improve my freestyle, that's my racing time:
50: 38''
100: 1'25''
200: 3'10''
400: 7'11''
I bought tempo trainer, and from 2 weeks i'm using it; I do not understand how I have to do to swim faster than mine, I try to maintain swim skill, to relax while swimming and more. those my test:
15x100 : I type only my faster and example for TT
TT 1.2: time 1'44''4
TT 1.11: time 1'44''8
TT 1: time 1'46''9
TT 0.98: time 1'44''5
TT 0.96: time 1'41''2
TT 0.94: time 1'42''2

than I tried 7x200: my faster and example were:
TT 1.2: time 3'33''00
TT 1: time 3'33''4
TT 0.95: 3'30''3
TT 1.05: time 3'30''7

last: 8x50
TT 1: 48''6
TT 0.9: 48''6
TT 0.8: 46''5


what I have to do to improve and regolarize speed?
What the next step?

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Cristiana
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what I cannot understarnd: how can I go faster keeping all the skill.
more kick?
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Old 07-11-2013
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Ciao Cristina

I hesitate to reply to your post because you are obviously a much better swimmer than I am, but I very much doubt that more lick is the answer. If anything I would guess less kick. If you read Terry's posts about how he approaches his training with the Tempo Trainer you are sure to find some helpful hints.


Things are rather quiet on the boards these days because I suppose everybody is busy swimming.

Are you swimming in a 50m pool?

What are your strokes per length at the various Tempo Trainer settings?

What age group are you in, if it isn't indelicate to ask?

I am in the 75-79 group with one more year to go, and a very slow swimmer.

Slightly better in breaststroke than in anything else.
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Old 07-12-2013
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Hi Rickards,
i'm 31, and usually I swim in 25 standard pool.
No TT my SPL is 21-23; with TT:
0.85: 26
0.9: 25
1: 24
1.2: 22

Even if race, my SPL doesn't go over 26; if I swim relax, no less then 19-20.
I'm tall 161 cm

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Old 07-12-2013
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Hi Cristiana

You are not tall by world swimming standards. Many of the top women are over 1,80, but also many of the fastest are quite petite, which shows that you don't need to be tall to be fast.

From reading Terry's posts, I would guess that you should start with a TT setting of around 1.3 and work in both directions, adding or subtracting 0.1.

For example:

Start at TT 1.3 and swim 4 x 25 counting strokes and trying to swim with immaculate technique, not trying to swim fast but trying not to splash.

then try 4 x 25 at 1.4 and so on, up to maybe 1.8, say.

Then come back down subtracting 0.1 each time and see if you can swim at the same effort level with fewer strokes.

Just a suggestion. Maybe Terry or Suzanne will add their thoughts.

Good luck!

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Old 07-14-2013
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Hi Cristiana
Welcome to the Total Immersion Forum. I promise you'll find much support and encouragement for your goals here.
The most valuable benefit of the Tempo Trainer when you first begin using it is to increase efficiency, ease, relaxation. Rather than striving at first to swim faster, learn to swim your current speeds with a lot more ease.

You do that pushing the right button on your TT, instead of the left.

You can find current examples of how I'm using the TT in the pool on this thread.

And pay particular attention to the last post I made -- describing a set I did on Friday called an Asymmetric Tempo Pyramid.

What happens to your effort level and stroke count, when you slow Tempo to 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, etc?
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Old 07-23-2013
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And pay particular attention to the last post I made -- describing a set I did on Friday called an Asymmetric Tempo Pyramid.

What happens to your effort level and stroke count, when you slow Tempo to 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, etc?


Hi Terry,
I tried your practise; when I slow Tempo, I find more easily for the first time, so It's difficult to mantain the tempo; it's mentally a little tyring to mantain all the tips at Tempo slow.
I'm going on this way to upgrade my swimming..

Cristiana
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Old 07-27-2013
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Cristiana
If you try a TT pyramid, please post your results, or at least as much as you can recall of them.
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Old 07-29-2013
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Hi Terry,
that's my results, I have them because I have a garmin swim, so I can check them.
10x100 free: first TT, second time, third SPL total

1: 1.1 - 1'42''3, 86
2: 1.2 - 1'49''3 - 88
3: 1 - 1'43''3 - 94
4: 1.2 - 1'47''9 82
5: 0.9 - 1'41''8 - 90
6: 1.1 - 1'46''6 -82
7: 0.9 - 1'42 - 98
8: 1.2 - 1'52''6 - 74
9: 0.9 - 1'39''8 - 94
10: 1.1 - 1'42''1 - 96

I pay attention to the last part of the stroke, when I push and extend my arm. Never done with attention before.


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Old 07-29-2013
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Cristiana
That's not a pyramid. Your tempos in that set appear random.
In a pyramid, you slow Tempo by a consistent amount on #s 1-4, than make Tempo faster by half that amount on #s 5-10. This is a formula proven to work by many people and countless experiences.

Give 99% of your attention to the first few degrees of movement in your stroke--trying to keep water molecules still as you begin pressing. Pay little or no attention to the back end. And never try to push water past your hip. Instead release it there.

Slower Tempos -- 1.30 and slower -- allow you more time to examine these things.
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