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![]() Galax A 25m SPL of 16 at your height is a bit too ambitious. You should give yourself a bit more freedom. As Suzanne made clear -- and Ashby fails to understand -- the TI goal is not to minimize stroke count. It's to optimize -- to find the most economical and sustainable SPL for both the pace and distance you wish to swim.
Informed TI swimmers typically work across a range of about 4 SPL for freestyle in a 25y/m pool. Our goals are to 1) be equally smooth at the top and bottom of our range 2) have great facility in calibrating our count - i.e. decide to swim a particular SPL and nail it with little or no end-of-lap adjustments. 3) have equal mastery at adjusting the count - to be able to swim 15-16-17 on subsequent lengths . . . or 17-16-15. 4) To be able to adjust both length and rate strategically to maintain or improve pace in response to fatigue or a racing situation. For a great example of a quintessential TI SPL-Mastery practice see Coach Todd's example in Post #3 of this thread.
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![]() I am 5'10" myself and swim in 25m pools and can swim at SPL 16, sometimes hitting 14, best was 11 or 12, don't quite remember. When seriously swimming I am at 17-21 with the majority of laps being at 18-19. In the beginning I tried to swim with a low SPL, now I do that only for reference. I try to swim with an optimal SPL and that seems to be 18-19 for me - open to changes.
But it is more that I swim a lap and then check what the SPL was. This still amazes me: I had that question before and didn't get a satisfying answer. How do you adjust the SPL, particularly how to swim the same length with a higher SPL? Assuming that you don't try to get sloppy in your stroke, what parameter do you change? Speed? Stroke length? ??? |
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What I am trying (they say don't try - do) to express is this. Snapping conotates flexing the wrist. I find if I keep the hand in line with the forearm and just increase the speed of the forearm/hand unit at the end of the "press" then the release happens smoothly and the arm exits the water where it should. Hope this is clear
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(I don't by any means try to swim at 11/12...that's ONLY for slow easy warmup...or drafting someone also swimming lieasurely!!) My typical SPL is more like 16/17 for easy 100s, and my fast swimming is 19/20. SPLs of 18/19 feel strong and fast but not overly fatiguing. Sprints are 22, sometimes even 25, but I think that's too high. Thanks for all the great discussion. Here is also a post I wrote just last night that is somewhat related to this thread...I intend to get it posted here @ TI as well. http://www.steelcityendurance.com/sw...right-way.html
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Suzanne Atkinson, MD Level 3 USAT Coach USA Paralympic Triathlon Coach Coach of 5 time USA Triathlon Triathlete of the Year, Kirsten Sass Steel City Endurance, LTD Fresh Freestyle |
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![]() Here it is on the TI coach blogs:
http://www.totalimmersion.net/myblog...right-way.html
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Suzanne Atkinson, MD Level 3 USAT Coach USA Paralympic Triathlon Coach Coach of 5 time USA Triathlon Triathlete of the Year, Kirsten Sass Steel City Endurance, LTD Fresh Freestyle |
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A lot more tiring to reach like I am trying to get hold of something just out of reach. these three sensations would correspond to perhaps 14-16 and 18SPL at the same SR, where my long term goal would be to hold 16 over a long distance, just at the fringe of working comfortable. I will train the 14's and 15's to make the 16's feel loose, physically and mentally. At different SR's these numbers may be 13-15-17, or 16-18-20. |
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If "wrist snap" gives wrong perception, I would say "elbow snap". Wrists and ankles are both loose when I snap both arms and legs. If we can change the speed of hand motion very rapidly, it can create force (F=ma) and snapping is the easiest way to add acceleration. By getting the force, you do not need to use your shoulder muscle to bring your arm forward. Opening the armpit takes care the rest. That is how I swim.
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======================================== Shinji Takeuchi TI Coach & the YouTube Swimmer Latest information for lessons: http://swimlikeshinji.com Shinji's swim video (No.1 worldwide on YouTube) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJpFVvho0o4&fmt=6 |
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![]() Andy,
I missed it if you explained your new signature. Posting latest PR"s I guess, is this one each 25m, spl of 16, held for 100m tt?
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![]() with a PR of 1.14?
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![]() I have been ice skating, such fun. We skated for hours on a daily basis when we were young. So easy to put the skates on and go and I have not skated but once or twice a year since, no learning curve like I am experiencing in swimming, swimming is a beautiful thing too. But Shinji's snap post provoked me. Long graceful arcs, from one foot to the other, just slipping along, there is a flick at the end of each arc enhance by the entire body. So similar, I believe.
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