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Old 08-18-2009
Nicodemus Nicodemus is offline
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Hi John
Sorry for putting words in your mouth!

Do you have a problem with over-rotation on every stroke, or only one side, or just strokes when you breathe?

I have noticed that I can over-rotate when I breathe. If I freeze my position an artificially long time and glide I sometimes drift over onto my back. Of course this may just be because I shouldn't hold the pose that long anyway. I find two things get me right back on track - turning my face down, and starting to recover my arm. I think the recovery arm is a great counter-balance because as soon as you lift it out of the water it becomes 10x heavier.

I noticed you referred to rotation from your arm pull. This suggests to me you are pulling up or sideways instead of straight back. I get no sense of rotation coming from the pull in my own stroke; it all comes from the kick, hip and shoulder.

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Old 08-24-2009
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Hi John
Sorry for putting words in your mouth!
... no offense taken (I never do) we were trying to understand each other.

Do you have a problem with over-rotation on every stroke, or only one side, or just strokes when you breathe?
...good question, probably more on my nonbreathing side.

I have noticed that I can over-rotate when I breathe. If I freeze my position an artificially long time and glide I sometimes drift over onto my back. Of course this may just be because I shouldn't hold the pose that long anyway. I find two things get me right back on track - turning my face down, and starting to recover my arm. I think the recovery arm is a great counter-balance because as soon as you lift it out of the water it becomes 10x heavier.
... I agree that elbow going high in the first part of the recovery is a great balancer.

I noticed you referred to rotation from your arm pull. This suggests to me you are pulling up or sideways instead of straight back. I get no sense of rotation coming from the pull in my own stroke; it all comes from the kick, hip and shoulder.
....I always thought it did. Maybe it doesn't???? I will try it out.

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Old 08-24-2009
splashingpat splashingpat is offline
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not on the pull!
I ready don't focus on what is going on under the water
like I try to focus on what is going on above ther water

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