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Old 11-22-2008
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What distance is typical for an inverted push-off?

Right now assume that I'm using an open turn. Later I might develop a flip turn. I practise inverted swimming by pushing off face down, diving for the bottom, then rolling to my back.

(I'm getting better at keeping water out of my nose while inverted. I do curl my lip up a bit sometimes. I still have some trouble when surfacing, but it's getting better.)
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Old 11-23-2008
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The distance really depends on how many dolphin kicks you use. If you don't do any at all, I think you should go for about the same lengths as in the regular push off. With Dolphin kicks this distance can be extended quite substantially.
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Old 11-24-2008
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I think according to the rules you are supposed to push off in the "face-up" position.

I usually aim for getting a half-body length past the flags. You can go farther, but it depends on whether you have the oxygen to burn and that your underwater is faster than your stroke.
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Old 11-24-2008
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I watched young people practising at the YMCA. They tended to surface immediately after turning to backstroke. Maybe that is for safety since they were circle swimming with a lot of traffic?
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Old 11-25-2008
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How quickly did they recover from their non-backstroke turns? If you don't have the air to stay under, then you surface.

I swam a lot of backstroke in high school (and was taught with the more yards is better philosophy so this might be totally wrong). The way that I was taught was to turn face down right before the wall, flip turn, and just don't roll back over, so I stay on my back after the turn.

Just like in freestyle, after the turn, I do a single dolphin just below the surface before starting to stroke, which puts me past the solid region of the lane rope before my first stroke.

I like the short axis strokes better, so I always enjoy the inverted dolphin because its just something fun and different.
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Old 11-25-2008
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How quickly did they recover from their non-backstroke turns? If you don't have the air to stay under, then you surface.

Just like in freestyle, after the turn, I do a single dolphin just below the surface before starting to stroke, which puts me past the solid region of the lane rope before my first stroke.
I think they go further when then are face down after the turn.

I can't get too far when inverted unless I'm face down first, then roll to my back. Tonight I tried tucking straight into the inverted position then pushing off, hands at my sides. I ran out of air too quick to have any air left by the time I surfaced.

Oh, so far I've only used flutter kicking when inverted. I did manage to break straight into an approximation of backstroke two times. Still much to learn.
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Old 11-26-2008
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I watched young people practising at the YMCA. They tended to surface immediately after turning to backstroke. Maybe that is for safety since they were circle swimming with a lot of traffic?
I find that hard to believe. When you're streamlining underwater on your back, you can see everything that's going on at the surface. It's actually easier to see what other swimmers are doing underwater on your back than when you're doing backstroke at the surface.
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