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Old 04-21-2017
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Today for the first time I tried out my fins as I am trying again to get a working 2BK.

My first thoughts whilst using the fins were ….. wow, an incredible difference. I could feel the subtleness that a slight movement had on rotation etc. How a tiny flick helps with rotation. The different feeling in my back, hip and entire leg.

When I took them off and tried the 2B, those feelings had gone.

My question is this. How have others developed a 2BK by using and then not using fins?
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Today for the first time I tried out my fins as I am trying again to get a working 2BK.

My first thoughts whilst using the fins were ….. wow, an incredible difference. I could feel the subtleness that a slight movement had on rotation etc. How a tiny flick helps with rotation. The different feeling in my back, hip and entire leg.

When I took them off and tried the 2B, those feelings had gone.

My question is this. How have others developed a 2BK by using and then not using fins?
I learned Two-Beat kick with NO fins.

Here was a video that helped me initially.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXMYGAgppRo
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About a month or so I started using fins for the first time, and feel like I have really improved my 2bk that way. As you say, kicking gently with long fins really amplifies the feeling of how the hips are acting.

To start incorporating that feeling even more, try doing some lengths with only one fin. Then you can start to match the feel with your other leg too.

These days I am doing this set during my tune-up most days:

2 x 25m with 2 fins, gentle kicking only for 10m, then add arm strokes

2 x 25m with left fin only, full stroke, trying to match right leg to what left leg (with fin) is doing

2 x 25m with right fin only as above

2 x 25m 2 fins, full stroke

2 x 25m no fins, trying to maintain same feeling in kick

This helps me a lot to keep hips engaged and kick working well. I believe I picked up the idea from Zenturtle here on the forum.
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Tom,

Are you always doing the drills with a 2BK or flutter kick as well?
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Old 04-22-2017
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Tom,

Are you always doing the drills with a 2BK or flutter kick as well?
I do the initial 10m of my work with 2 fins at a slow flutter kick, no arms. Then I transition to a 2bk for the rest of the length.

The 1-fin work I do is all 2bk.

I limit my total fin time to 200m per day, but I suppose there's no reason you couldn't work on 6bk the same way.
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Old 05-05-2017
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I also learned 2bk without using fins.
However now and again I do a few lengths using them and it just seems to tune my timing up a little such that when I take them off the following lengths feel better.

I don't know why.

Here is a short video I did about the use of fins. I know longer firmer find are called for but these fins are all that I had.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9XtaCp5CeI
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