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![]() What I have understood from the Post of Inge and CoachBobM that Catch Initiates rolling but until that time I will have to be in skate position from the start of recovery to hand touches the water (Mail Slot)and there is no rolling during this time. Is it right now?
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![]() I start rolling towards the recovering arm when passes shoulder height
If you do fingertip drag drill you will see the point at which you start rolling towards the recovering arm as long as you keep fingertips touching the water (or keep your wrists in the water) Its a rise & fall motion. |
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![]() If you stay up all the way to entry your weight shift will be slamming in
better to let the recovering arm enter and the rest of the body follow through the hole |
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The weight and momentum of the recovery arm rotates the body or initiates rotation, connected to hip rotation and downward kick. This is also referred to as the "weight shift" with whole body coordination - accessing external forces of gravity and momentum for rotation and propulsion. Stu |
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![]() Not sure if I am doing it right, but my body is quiet in the glide. (I love the glide.) I initiate the rotation with my spear. I am not aware enough of my body to know the exact timing, but I think it is the moment my hand hits the water. (something to pay attention to in my next swim)
It also sounds right that the tension/pain comes from keeping the hands/shoulders too tight in. Try the drills (blanking on the name) where you dip the hand in your field of vision without completing the stroke. I found the focus on keeping my arm loose and the timing of the switch, (body roll) really helpful. |
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![]() Apparently your hands should never leave your field of vision,
I.e remain in your peripheral vision. |
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![]() your arm articulates around the elbow, circling inside on the pull / circling outside on the recovery.
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![]() I typically advocate getting really good at holding the body angle in Skate so as to *not* be rolling when you finish the stroke at the hip and you are recovering.
If you are begin to roll back down as you recover: 1. you will be losing the full potential of using the body rotation to drive the arm forward because you'll be partially rotated already. 2. It could also cause you to try to pull the elbow behind you to keep the arm high because you're starting to rotate that arm into the water. 3. drag increases with extraneous motion so keep calm, quiet, and balanced on your Skate edge of body as you bring your recovering arm forward. If you are already rotating, you're increasing your drag and decelerating as you're bring your recovering arm forward. Your goal instead is to minimize deceleration during the phases where there is no propulsion, like between the finish of the stroke back and recovery to entry forward. So get good at Skate so that when you swim full stroke, you can remain perfectly balanced on your Skate edge during recovery.
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![]() During this phase I feel deceleration as you mentioned from recovery to entry forward. Can this deceleration be eliminated by being in Skate position ?
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