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Old 08-06-2011
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Default Sun Yang in slow motion

Christmas has come early.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvM3JYC--hM

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Old 08-06-2011
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Amazing video! I find it fascinating that he pauses his kick when reaching for air: one, two, three , pause+breath, repeat....
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Old 08-06-2011
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Fascinating. He's compelling to watch. And he actually looks human -- no wriggly dolphin off the wall, legs not always super streamlined (at least from this view). And that kick...

I'm curious to read Terry's analysis of the stroke. :)
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I suspect the dolphin kick off the wall would keep him underwater for longer than is wise in a distance race where air supply is critical.

What stood out to me about his kick is that the flick immediately preceding spearing looks just like Shinji's.

I was also content to note that his spearing is, to use my own terminology, 'steep then shallow'.

Are there moments when his lead hand drifts upwards as he extends? I've certainly seen Ian Thorpe doing this although if you're doing EVF with your elbow at the water surface perhaps it makes no difference, or is even intentional, the idea being to grab as large a ball of water as possible.

I recorded the race off the TV on to hard disk and watched it again today. The shots from above, not shown here, are eerily Shinji-like. I also spent time comparing him with the other guys. To a man, they all (i) lead more with the hand, (ii) re-enter the water further forward than Sun Yang, (iii) have a less patient lead arm, (iv) have a higher turnover rate, and (v) have a more turbulent (presumably stronger) kick.

Not only has Sun Yang won a top prize in record time; I wonder whether coaches will look at him and change the way they train tomorrow's stars. He is one of the very few elite swimmers I have seen whose stroke challenges Shinji for elegance. The rest (think of Phelps and his gallop or Adlington and her stiff hands) impress me for speed but always have something about their technique that looks like a flaw.

While watching my TV recording I also noticed that Sun Yang's hands and forearms are relaxed during recovery. It's all there!
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Old 08-07-2011
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I Completely Agree, thanks so much for finding this and sharing it :)
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Not only has Sun Yang won a top prize in record time; I wonder whether coaches will look at him and change the way they train tomorrow's stars.
can anyone confirm that Sun Yang has the same coach as Hackett use to have?
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That's what I've read in many places.
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This may be of interest:
http://www.fina.org/H2O/index.php?op...ng&Itemid=1118
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According to the Beijing Olympics page on Sun, his coach then was Zhu Zhigen.

Park Tae Hwan (or Tae Hwan Park in our name order) also went to Australia to train, after his success in Beijing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWeUZO9xdyA

His stroke seems to have changed somewhat since then. It is smoother. He still swims with a high turnover, no doubt because of his smaller stature (he is a mere six feet, as opposed to the 'norm' of 6'6''). He is another with a bit of a gallop in his stroke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prUlVAbohBs
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Old 08-14-2011
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Default Sun Yang SR

The clock is on the screen. Looks like about a 0.90 second SR! That's pretty much windmilling along for 1500m! Can't say my TT has ever been set that low for even 1 lap! :)


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