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I'm a relative novice when it comes to swimming so I wasn't familiar with the TI Green Zone chart but i'll definitely have to check it out and see where I am expected to be on the scale. __________________ Check-out My Lastest Thread: showthread.php?t=8648 |
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![]() I sort of tried this today.
My brain cant get around all the numbers and then remembering it all to report here ia a mission! So I simplified it slightly using my Garmin swim to help me keep track as much as possible while trying to remember my stroke counts to report here. I did a number of 100's at 1.30 to warm up and to tune up. I then did successive 100's shortening the TT time by .02 per 100 all the way down to 1.08 which is a stretch for me. RPE was quite high and while I have done mid to high 1:30's on occasion I have never done so many in succession. I waited about 20-30 seconds between each 100. The first 25 yards was always one stroke less than the others and according to my garmin was the fastest all of them sub 1:30 with the remaining 3 a fair bit slower resulting in the average time. At higher tempo I should be going faster, maybe fatigue was setting in. My arms were getting tired. So here is TT - SPL and time per 100 yards in a 25 yard pool. 1.30 15 1:37 1.28 15 1:37 1.26 15 1:37 1.24 15 1:37 1.22 15 1:37 1.20 16 1:36 1.18 16 1:35 1.16 16 1:36 1.14 16 1:35 1.12 16 1:35 1.10 16 1:35 1.08 17 1:35 I look forward to all of the comments and suggestions. If you follow my YouTube channel from the video in my signature you can look at my version of TI!!
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Yeah, something is a little non-linear in that math. It sounds like slipping as you progress to faster tempos. Maybe a dropped elbow. Maybe loss of hull-length (impatient lead hand). Maybe swimming with your arms too much instead of hips, shoulders. Maybe wasted movement and time in recovery. Come back and see us this summer - make sure you tell Stuart, bribe him into filming! Otherwise, work in the 1:20-1:10 tempo zone and see if you can get a more perfect streamline, a less wiggly core, a straighter head position, a less disruptive breath. Something to get your time down to 1:34, 1:33, 1:32, 1:31, 1:30 for those same 16 strokes. Avoid pushing harder with your hands. Look for the speed by being the perfect torpedo. Cheers. |
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![]() Hi Tomoy,
Thanks as always for your insightful replies. I think you pretty much confirmed what I thought the situation to be. IN previous experiments I have noticed doing the same or better times at lower tempos while really concentrating on all of the elements. In many of the latter 25's of the sets above I started feeling a little winded. I think that some peoples body make up and style don't make the higher tempos easy to achieve. I will however try and start at the 1:20 to 1:10 zone as you mention and see what results I can achieve while a little fresher. I think Stuart even once said that based on how he saw me swimming that I should not try and go much faster than a tempo of 1:25. Specially not until I can tune my stroke such that faster tempos give me quicker times.
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![]() Hi Streak: same SPL, tempo increases but pace doesn't improve. If these numbers are correct, you must have lost time during the non stroking part (ie turns & pushoff) as tempo increased. Do you count the beeps during turns and pushoff? If not, I suggest you to do it, it's a good exercise. At these rates, 4 beeps for turns and pushoff should be enough.
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![]() Thanks Salvo, good point. I will look into that.
The time figures are pretty accurate. The SPL could be plus or minus 1. As far as the TT is concerned, no doubt the device is accurate I am just not sure that my timing is exactly to the beep.
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