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Old 05-14-2014
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Zenturtle posted a link on one of Jellybean's threads In search of the magic focal point... to something called Cat and Mouse. I've seen and read quite a lot about the switch and have been practising drills but the video seemed to really help me, so fwiw :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoNhT3y0Nv0


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Hmmm, I already posted this vid 2 times here....

Dont want to irritate too many TI coaches with "normal" swimming instructions/videos, but I do find every word he says in this video is spot on (and not conflicting with TI swimming).

If I post too much non specific TI suggestions, I assume some coaches will give some replies...
A bit of discussion can be a good thing now and then.
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Hmmm, I already posted this vid 2 times here....

Dont want to irritate too many TI coaches with "normal" swimming instructions/videos, but I do find every word he says in this video is spot on (and not conflicting with TI swimming).

If I post too much non specific TI suggestions, I assume some coaches will give some replies...
A bit of discussion can be a good thing now and then.
Didn't think of getting you into hot water by mentioning you, just wanted to give you the credit and thanks. If it helped me get it my thought was it might help others.

Maybe I'm just insensitive, but I can't see it putting anyone's nose out of joint here. It's no different to what others are describing and I still don't know why this one clicked with me but it seemed easier to keep in my head.

Something weird though - I could have SWORN he said something about triggering or firing the spear but now rerunning the video to find the exact words I discover he NEVER SAID anything like that .... so where on earth did those words spring from (oh and why's he got an olympic tattoo on his chest?)

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He was an olympic swimmer
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Zenturtle posted a link on one of Jellybean's threads In search of the magic focal point... to something called Cat and Mouse. I've seen and read quite a lot about the switch and have been practising drills but the video seemed to really help me, so fwiw :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoNhT3y0Nv0


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I like cat & mouse. Simple visual imaginative explanation.
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Old 05-18-2014
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Tried "Cat & Mouse" on Friday and feel it made a significant improvement.
I think it helped force a focus and smoothness in my stroke ... a more studied stroke.

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Compare the cat and mouse with Thorpes timing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcCP...RyBAeWl7dQ6Yfu

The difference is, he has a big 6bk knitting the whole sequence nicely together.
I guess the TI timing should be a little more towards windmilling, but that is for the TI coaches to decide.

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A theory could be that the TI stroke doesn't need to care about this as much as say, the way I (for instance) teach swimming.

Every time I see this deep skate position, like hundreds of people, I'm wondering "does this create drag?". But then the numbers seem to confirm that it doesn't seem to hurt hydrodynamic profile.

Normally, I can only hope at least, I'd expect a TI swimmer to fusion the downsweep to skate to catch as the rate increases.
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Compare the cat and mouse with Thorpes timing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcCP...RyBAeWl7dQ6Yfu

The difference is, he has a big 6bk knitting the whole sequence nicely together.
I guess the TI timing should be a little more towards windmilling, but that is for the TI coaches to decide.
Small 6bk kick in that video.

Spear switch & swing switch drills help teach timing in conjunction with body rotation. Propulsion is applied against streamlining for most efficient forward movement.
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