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Old 05-07-2017
Zenturtle Zenturtle is offline
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Default The virtues of no kick swimming

Everybody should learn to swim without a kick. Hold the legs together like they are in a narrow sleeping bag.
With some floataion help, or without. Its about learning about the differnce between upperbody propulsion and/or kick propulsion.
You can stabilize the legs and hips and work the body from there, using the legs and hips as stable foundation to work from.
Another aproach is to keep the body stable between hips and shoulders,and drive that unit from the kick.
Both can help propulsion, but combining both mechanisms is best.

kick driving, trunk stable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZih4gpY4Ao

Trunk driving, hips and legs stable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R1K...zHkbCDXHnPTuig

Trunk AND kick driving, total body actively involved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHszSCgMkpU

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Old 05-08-2017
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Everybody should learn to swim without a kick. Hold the legs together like they are in a narrow sleeping bag.
With some floataion help, or without. Its about learning about the differnce between upperbody propulsion and/or kick propulsion.
You can stabilize the legs and hips and work the body from there, using the legs and hips as stable foundation to work from.
Another aproach is to keep the body stable between hips and shoulders,and drive that unit from the kick.
Both can help propulsion, but combining both mechanisms is best.
Have yet to see videos.
I think 2bk is fundamental for TI. Recovery connected to the hip, kick, glide.
I got better result with extended legs, like I try to get high fruits.
So, I have perfect anchor on the right side. Mostly failing on the left. Why?
Cannot say in a million years.
In my case, extreme rotation helps. I learned to start from behind umbilicus.
My worst part is breathing. When I do it on the left, right arm sinks. I assume
it is shoulder problem, as I know it exists. Almost frozen before, quite healthy
now.
BTW, previous Japanese guy on your video did not swim correct. Too soft,
with legs going here and there. Pool is what I liked enormously.
Best regards.
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Old 05-08-2017
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Kicking at the right moment gives more power to the stroke, but Shinji always looked very much like a swimmer with a pullbuoy in my eyes, only didnt he need the pullbuoy for balance. His kick effort/amplitude usually is very low, certainly if he has to slow down to syncswim with a slower swimmer.

Just like Thorpe, he uses both methods for propulsion.
Thats what makes him one of the smoothest TI swimmers around.

And he knows what he is doing:



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