Originally Posted by tab
I feel like it is a word on the tip of my tongue and I can't just reach it, but it will come to me. I will try the kick in and kick out. The thing with the breast stroke/fly I am missing is the key hole stroke with the arms, I feel like I am sinking too far into the water.
I will look into the dvd.
You are not missing anything. The shpe underwater is less important than finding flow. Flow comes from gravity and buoyancy and timing body movements with the natural forces. Kick in, kick out, keyhole is outside in thinking. Gravity, buoyancy and support are inside out thinking and help both fly and breast feel almost effortless.