I think most folks start the count after their normal push and glide which I find to be an important part of starting each length getting nice and stable before the first stroke.
What's more important is that this push and glide is consistent so that you will know if your count is going up or down for you.
Yes, if you have a longer glide you will take less strokes than if you have a shorter glide. There is nothing artificial about it it's just how each of us swim.
I think I have to agree with you on this...
I think I can push & glide using perhaps just one slow downbeat kick and then surface and begin stroking when the momentum slows to my approximate swim speed...
I also am thinking that using the underwater lane marker can give me the sense that I'm surfacing consistently in the same spot....that way at least I'm getting an apples to apples comparison every time I swim and do the SC...
Read mat Hudson's posts for more detail on determination ,but if you subtract your pushoff, and count strokes for the remaining distance, we like to see a range of 55-75% of your height for your stroke count. SPL is just the distance remaining divided by your stroke length.
We are in reality more concerned with stroke length as a percentage of your wingspan than absolute strokes per length.
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